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THEOG: Episode IX

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After starting out with what sounds like the old-school Leog version of Lou Reed’s Metal Machine Music, the gang gets down to serious business.

This week, we’ve got not one, but two guests: Oneofus’s own Brian Salisbury makes his first appearance on the show, and Doctor Nerdlove himself, Harris O’Malley sits in on the discussions.

Much is made of the spill closing announcement, the sequel to The Shining, the show Almost Human, and finally, Chris’s trip to China and Japan. You really can’t miss this one. It’s now against the law. And Karl Urban IS the law. So don’t screw it up.

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Born in the wilds of northern Virginia, in 1992 Chris managed to put all of his survival skills to use and barely escaped with his life to Austin Texas, where ever since he’s dabbled in everything from plumber’s assistant to sandwich maker, from band to bar management. An opportunity to see theatrical release films for free, by becoming a critic on a local public access show called “The Reel Deal”, turned into a full time job when Chris and his friends decided to take it to the internet. They built the site Spill.com, adding multiple podcasts and animated features, to no small amount of success. During this time, a fortuitous friendship sprung up between Chris and young Brian Salisbury, who was also a local film critic, and they merged their forces of will, and their laundry list of ideas for shows, to eventually build this paradise you see before you.
  • Christopher Jaramillo

    WOOOH One of us doing movie reviews 😀

  • Mike

    Hell Yeah,

    I honestly love the hell out of ALL of you guys. Keep up this amazing website.

    How can we contribute more? I’ve already set my amazon book to go through your affiliate link!

    P.S I think people would take to subscriptions if there was a discounted yearly one. I would rather pay a whole year up front and get 20% off.

    • Brian_Salisbury

      Hi Mike,
      Thank you for the kinds words! You can actually make a one-time donation in any amount you choose. You just decide what you’d like to give, set up that payment, and then cancel recurring withdrawls. We very much appreciate your support!

  • shadeybaby

    CORRECTION! Although DOCTOR SLEEP did beat WIND THROUGH THE KEYHOLE in the online poll, KEYHOLE got published first.

    • Chris Cox

      HE LIED TO ME. Also, I never read the Dark Tower books so I didn’t even know that (nor did the Wikipedia article I got the info from mention it….there’s some solid good-old-fashioned Chris Cox researching. )

      • shadeybaby

        I don’t read Dark Tower either, though I’m always meaning to. I just remember random shit like this when browsing the Internet.

        • phillipkslick

          Smartest move is to read the first e books of the Dark Tower and even with the first 5 the quality varies quite a bit. Books 1,4 and 5 are great. After that the series goes far downhill and Stephen King gets into some very self indulgent territory.

  • Darkman220

    I am mostly worried because Warner Brothers are giving so much of DC property to David S Goyer and he is a terrible writer and he keeps getting lucky with some movies he wrote are good while the rest sucked

  • Michael Graham

    Wish I had found this sooner. Missed you guys

  • Tom Painter

    Brand new OG? Great Monday!

  • Bilc Vlad

    This is amazing news! I have to admit that I was very bummed out when I heard that spill is going to end, but I’m glad to hear that you guys are going to push out more content, especially movie reviews.

  • cabo

    ROC

  • Oscar Baldassari-Vera

    had no idea martin had kids

    • Seth Moore

      yeah i know

  • Will Sanefski

    Yesssssssss review with us awe yeah

  • Neil Kelly

    Great episode. 🙂 Really fun to hear about Chris’s travels, and the news about upcoming reviews? If it helps towards keeping the members of the Spill crew afloat I’m excited to see them here. :)Keep it up, and Long Live the OG!

  • Jackob

    I never realize how much I miss the LEOG until a new TheOG comes out. I am so glad that they are going to try to make it more of a regular thing.

  • Steffen Pabst

    Hm… met Kevin Smith once. Could not have been nicer. Unbelievable nice.

    • Brian_Salisbury

      Out of curiosity, when did you meet him? Not at all seeking to contradict you, I just noticed a real personality switch in him around the time Cop Out came out and I’m interested to know if you met him before or after its release. Thanks!

      • Steffen Pabst

        It was after Cop Out in 2011. He was doing his Red State tour in Birmingham. I was in Birmingham to visit my cousin. We went to watch a movie (Colombiana, meh), I had no idea that there was a Red State screening in that theater. After the movie we saw him in the lobby talking to a bunch of people. To be honest I would never approach someone famous. He was also on his way out. I like Kevin Smith and i would consider myself a fan of his podcast. But my cousin is a HUGE fan. So he walked up to him and said he was a fan. He asked us if we were at the screening. We said no, unfortunately not. We watched Colombiana He said something like, “Bummer man, it was awesome.” He asked us how Colombiana was, and so on. It was just a couple of minutes, but he seemed really nice. I know he can be pretty weird sometimes (Cop Out critics debacle), but i think he mellowed out in the last couple of years.

        PS: Sorry for my bad english. Not my native tongue.

    • Brian_Salisbury

      Out of curiosity, when did you meet him? Not at all seeking to contradict you, I just noticed a real personality switch in him around the time Cop Out came out and I’m interested to know if you met him before or after its release. Thanks!

  • TheDVDGrouch

    I made a bit of an ass outta myself trying to talk to Australians about Fosters lol. Glad to hear you guys will be reviewing movies now.

  • Jenni Matasek

    So happy to hear that the site is going to be a new home for movie reviews. And I so wish I had much more money and didn’t have to pay of those pesky college loans so I could support the site!

  • Victor P.

    Chris faced the cursed grave and as a result Spill got shut down….

    • Chris Cox

      The moral of this story is: don’t fuck with ghostly samurai heads. They are pretty much never the old man who runs the haunted amusement park.

    • 2Malevolent

      lol

  • gambolingman

    PENULTIMATE!

  • jbousema

    As sad as it is to see Spill go, I’m glad it will give you guys more time to put out more great content here on One of Us. As usual with THEOG, it brings me right back to the LEOG days, and I always look forward to new episodes. Looking forward to seeing some of the sure to be great stuff the site will have to offer in the future. Cheers!

  • Travis Pickle

    Ah the comfy tones of oldskool LEOG 😉

  • Brad Trumpfheller

    Great episode, guys. Glad to see the return of some LEOG luminaries, as well as a similar feel to the old days. Can’t wait for the proposed movie reviews you guys discussed, One of Us is shaping up to be one of my daily go-to websites! Keep up the good work.

  • Will Sanefski

    So does this mean more theog and interstellar variations

    • Chris Cox

      As much as we can find time to do, to be sure, although I’m not sure if that’s more or the same as before yet.

  • Seth Moore

    Love The House of Sand and Fog

  • Greg R

    Look’s like I’m going to be adding The Shinning and Doctor Sleep to my reading list. I’m glad to have more things to read, thanks guys.

    Also, I can’t wait for weekly episodes of THEOG and movies reviews. Have y’all decided if they are going to be straight audio podcast reviews or live action video reviews, similar to what Spill has been doing for the last weeks?

    • Chris Cox

      Discussions on this issue begins soon.

      • Whitewizard

        i would vote for audio reviews. those are the bread and butter of everything you guys do and usually allows for in depth discussion compared to the shorter video content that spill and OoU tend to lean towards. if you do long videos that could be cool but i love the audio stuff. just my 2 cents

  • Satoshi

    Dancer in The Dark Knight. lol.

  • TheDVDGrouch

    Hearing the the old LEOG team back together is like putting on your favorite warm pair of pants outta the dryer. Also thank you for reading my question I’m an OG spill.com guy & I think this was the first time you guys read my e-mail.

  • AlbinoAssassin

    8 minutes in and it already feels like home. Dear god I’ve missed all of you guys together on the same podcast! Thanks guys. I’m grinning from ear to ear right now.

  • AlbinoAssassin

    Chris, King already released The Wind Through the Keyhole well over a year ago. It takes place in the past and follows a younger Roland, after the events in Wizard and Glass, hunting down a monster. Its a really fun read.

  • Malcolm Thomas

    I don’t think you need to introduce all of the justice league character, because you only need to introduce the big three of the team

  • Michał Walkowiak

    So sad spill is ending. Can’t wait for the reviews on OneOfUs.

  • Chosen One

    Ah so it was hinted at there being bad blood between Coleman and the Murphy clan. I kind of figured as much when Jason curtly shutdown any possibility of Korey appearing on RageSelect.

    • phillipkslick

      You could kind of tell from certain things he’d say during Let’s Plays every now and again, Jeff and Kevin sometimes too, but more so Jason. It’s sad, they all seem like cool people. And the Slender reviews with Korey and the Rage guys were hilarious.

      • Rock-X

        Yeah, I’ve been unclear as to if it started with how Korey tried to handle announcing the cancellation of the shows back in June or if it was before the June mess on Spill. I don’t go to Rage select mainly because of the comments Kevin made about the ‘Phase 2’ aftermath regarding Korey & The Loading Bar: In short, he implied that everything done (such as Jeff’s apathy to Zombie games, Kevin’s belief that platform games are passe, Jason’s confusion between the ‘Bargain Bin’ & ‘Rental’ ratings, & Nick’s nervous breakdown) on the show was a lie. Since then, I’ve stayed away from their stuff in a way to show them”where you go, I will NOT follow”.

        • phillipkslick

          I try not to judge, I don’t know what happened behind the scenes. All I know is that all these guys are funny and entertaining and that keeps me following all their stuff from Spill, Oneofus, Loose Canon, Rageselect and whatever Korey has brewing for the post-Spill resurrection. Hopefully they were ever truly friends they can reconcile and if they can’t, hey, sometimes friendships just dissolve.

        • Janek Steifer

          ” In short, he implied that everything done (such as Jeff’s apathy to Zombie games, Kevin’s belief that platform games are passe, Jason’s confusion between the ‘Bargain Bin’ & ‘Rental’ ratings, & Nick’s nervous breakdown) on the show was a lie.”

          — A lie? In what way? Meaning, Korey made them say that or what?

        • Marcus Green

          Could you point to the podcast that has that? I don’t really listen to the non Jason, Jeff, and Grant content outside of a few Sparkle Fandagos here and there so I missed that but it definitely sounds interesting.

        • CaptainMurphy

          Hey, I gotta chime in, if you don’t mind. 🙂 While I don’t want to pollute the OneofUs forums and drag this discussion on, I’m curious as to what you mean about Kevin saying stuff was a lie? Seems like it may have been a misunderstanding.

          I don’t want to get off topic here (this isn’t a LEOG, after all 😉 ), so I’m happy to chat about it if you hit me up on Facebook.

          https://www.facebook.com/JasonScottMurphy

          • Tyler-perry-is-a-daint-fairy

            Rock-X is twisting what Kevin actually said on a short comment on his podcast’s website. Kevin simply said that he wasn’t surprised to see LB go, and that he thought that some of the laughter on the show was forced. Here is that comment: http://videogamenews.com/forum/topics/no-more-spill?xg_source=activity

            Also if you haven’t seen the comment on John Rubio above, Rock-X seems like a horrible person on the internet, though I’m sure he isn’t as much of an rude child in real life.

          • Rock-X

            Actually, what I said was based on the 2-3 paragraphs long comment he left on the Spill blog post of “Spill Phase 2 FAQ” that came up afterwards. I wish I could link to you the actually comment, I really do, but I searched for the original blog post and it has gone missing. That is the reason why I didn’t respond to CaptainMurphy’s offer. It may seem to everyone that I was twisting the facts, but I assure you that was NOT my intention in the least.

          • Tyler-perry-is-a-daint-fairy

            Oh, I didn’t even see that comment, I apologize!

        • 2Malevolent

          Ah I get it, you are a moron. My bad with what I posted before. Stupid cannot be helped.

    • Janek Steifer

      Yeah, but is it actually for real? I’m sad to hear this. I would like Korey or Jason or Jeff being straightforward with this. I don’t want them calling each other assholes or anything, but I would like to know if they’re okay, just say something like: “Yeah, we have troubled relationship since the Loading Bar ending.” or something that would shed some light on this.

      I love the Rage Select guys, and I like Korey. From what Chris and Martin say it doesn’t seem like Korey had really much to do with Loading Bar ending. It’s hard for me to believe that he would be an asshole to them during that time, since his reactions on call-ins and podcast sounded genuine. I couldn’t blame them for disliking Spill as an entity or Hollywood.com, but bad blood with Korey is a shame.

      Can someone please say something? Can’t they just get along? I loved their Slender let’s plays and I’d love to see Korey appearing as a guest there.

      Will Korey be a part of OneOfUs or their movie reviews? If not, it’s kind of sad that everyone split into those different sites collaborating with each other and Korey becomes an outsider to all of this. I’m wouldn’t call myself a fan of his, I wasn’t listening to LDT, but I like him despite everything, and it seems a bit unfair.

      :/

  • Rock-X

    I’ve only just got around to listening the last two episodes before starting this one, and man it was great to hear the LEOG group together again. I, however, will be the odd man out when I say this:

    Martin, in a previous podcast episode on Spill (ACOCO specifically), you said how people who stopped listening to certain podcasts after hearing something they didn’t like were stupid to think that them not listening would end a show; and yet I could name ONE show where that did happen, and it was the LEOG. Don’t misunderstand, I loved listening to you guys talking about what comics you read, what movies you saw, and making jokes over one another and getting into arguments with ‘Peter’ over things he over analyze about. The one thing that made me stop listening halfway through an episode or even not listen at all was one man: John F@#%ing Rubio.
    I shared my opinions with ‘Peter’ about him on Spill before, so to summarize: You guys listen to his jokes, his impressions, & his antics and find him side splitting funny, yet I listened to the exact same thing and found his humor so unfunny it was aggravating: After he was made a member, I tried to listen to him for more than 5 or 10 minutes, but every time I just kept saying at the laughter “Are you finished yet?” and each time I stopped the episode, left to view something else and never returned to the episode. It was about a month or two later when talking about the DC Reboot announcement that I was able to listen to a full episode.
    I know for a FACT I’m NOT alone in this simply because of this show’s existence. For those who don’t know, the OG was created as a ‘back to basics’ show for Spill because enough people stopped listening to the LEOG that Chris was told to end it (While I don’t speak for everyone, I can make a good guess as to why, or rather, who was the cause). Don’t get me wrong, Chris, Martin, & Beau; I was sad just like everyone else to hear the show was cancelled and even now I still hope for a big LEOG Reunion show with the other alumni, but a small part of me was saying I should be glad because it meant I will NEVER have to listen to that CANCER you guys call ‘friend’ again, which is made better that he has his own site he and his low life followers he called “disciples” ran rot in as far as I’m concerned. I love listening to you guys here on this site, I REALLY DO: I’m just asking you…No, I’m Telling you; DON’T.BRING.JOHN.RUBIO.ON.THIS.SHOW.

    • Chris Cox

      Actually, LEOG wasn’t so much cancelled for low rating, as that Korey already was more than half way sure that all the extra shows were going to come to an end, and insinuated to me in such a way, that Martin and I, after much conversation and gnashing of teeth/rending of garments, came to the conclusion that it was better just to bring it to a close the way we wanted to do it. I know you didn’t like Rubio. There were others who didn’t as well. But there were people who didn’t like (fill in the blank) across the board. There were certainly a LOT of folks who LOVED Rubio’s brand of humor on the show and constantly asked for more of it. All I can say is, I’m really sorry you don’t know the guy; he is one of the sweetest, smartest and, believe it or not, kindest gentlemen I know. Yeah, his humor is acerbic and not for all tastes. But that’s no reason to go calling the guy a cancer. Jeez.

    • Beau

      Wow. Whatever point you were trying to make just got lost in your horrible tone. Not only is it presumptuous but it is downright insulting to someone you don’t even know and can only fault because his sense of humor doesn’t happen to be your cup of tea. Let me assure you, if that was the yardstick for who gets to appear on LEOG (or the OG) I would have been out on my ass quite some time ago.
      I just want to say for the record that John is one of the most intelligent, kind-hearted and generous men I have ever known and to say that you are painting him with a rather broad brush for someone who has only listened to him on one particular podcast. Your “complaint” isn’t helped by such a frame.

    • Tabularasa

      I agree with you that I tuned out of the LEOG whenever Rubio would make an appearance, but you have to understand that in the world of podcasting, what you hear on the mic is not always who the person is in real life. I found Rubio overbearing, but you crossed a line here calling him a cancer.

      • Rock-X

        You know what? You are RIGHT, sir. I had a rotten day that time and was in a vile, overzealous mood when writing those comments. It relates to two separate problems that came together greatly and it had no place with the discussion of this episode, the LEOG, the OG, or about John Rubio. I should’ve left the venom in my attitude subside, but I didn’t and for that I sincerely apologize to you Chris, Martin, Beau, & John Rubio especially. I should’ve said exactly what Tabularasa said regarding my reaction to Rubio’s humor, but instead I degenerated into a destructive criticism on the person despite the fact I only heard him on the only podcast he could be heard at that time. I feel shame for the rant fuel by ill-tempered will and I’m sorry for it, I really do. Next time I post a comment, I will conduct myself in a civil manner and watch what I say.

    • 2Malevolent

      lol sounds like Rubio killed your mom or something. You do understand the notion that most comedy is subjective, and if you have tons of people on a podcast, generally someone is not going to like or be a fan of someone else. You did not like Rubio, that is fine. But to call him a CANCER? I do not wish your mom dead, but maybe you and Rubio can meet so that he has the chance to lay you out. Then spit on you. DIck.

    • Livio Volpe

      Well, the fact you agreed with FungusMonkey opinions says it all…

      just kidding!! lol

  • theboogieman

    Another awesome episode, guys. It was really, really interesting hearing about Cyrus’ time in Tokyo and China. When you mentioned supporting this site more, I realized that I hadn’t white-listed you guys yet on my AdBlock. so I made sure that I did that.

    • 2Malevolent

      Chris dude. I think Cyrus is dead.

      • theboogieman

        Oh yeah. Shit, I’m used to calling Chris by his Spill name, from commenting on Spill.

      • Chris Cox

        Yeah, what 2Malevolent said.

  • RossOB

    Excellent podcast, thanks for the shout-out Chris. Thank your mom for me, for (as you foreshadowed) I just got the sweetest thank you letter (LETTER, I say) from her…and it may take me a while to source a parcel of Strathmore upon which to pen my reply. Go well, OG.

    • Chris Cox

      You are amazing, Ross. Amazing. Thank you again.

  • Whitewizard

    totally love this episode and really hope you shift towards old school LEOG again, or at the very least include harris more often and make it a foursome. I can’t wait for the movie reviews to start up 😀

  • Ramón Pérez

    Not gonna lie hoping that the OG goes weekly as a result of the end of spill

    • Ramón Pérez

      Really the reason I havent contributed to the site, monetarily, is because the content I like isn’t regular and consistent.

      • Mike

        Well, one of the reasons the content isn’t regular and consistent is because you haven’t contributed monetarily.

        • 2Malevolent

          lol

  • Jay

    Love that warm tingly feeling I get hearing the LEOG briefly come back together.

  • Stepith Bloodia

    Harris just mentioned TV Tropes? That’s fucking awesome!

    • HeavyDii

      What’s awesome is that Gill is your avatar. RESURRECTION!

  • Steffen Pabst

    To be honest, this is my favorite episode yet.

  • Eric Kirby

    Hey Martin a couple of years ago I sent you the ESPN 30 for 30 blu ray box set. Did you ever watch any of them? and if you did can you talk about it on the next show. It can be a short review like 5mins. If you have not seen them yet, you and Chris should watch a few of them one night. I suggest ( Without Bias, The Legend of Jimmy The Greek, Guru of Go, June 17th 1994 and Once Brothers) . That’s all love the show and I hope you and Chris watch some of the movies and give a short review on the next show. If you guys have time.

  • Andrew Catron

    I loved how confused Chris got at the Buffalo Bills reference! I absolutely love this show, the site, and especially the people who make it run. Now that Spill’s gone (much love to it and those who made it run), is there any chance of a OOU Con? I would totally chip in for an US-CON Kickstarter!

    Also, I really wish you guys could find a way to fold in Lounge Geeks to OOU. I love Grant’s site, but I feel like he’s an essential part of your crew and I’d like to see him be a part of this (even though he’s already a part of The Beerists and Rage Select…and a father).

    But hey, enough blathering. Great show, guys! I’m not looking forward to episode ten, I’m looking forward to episode two hundred and ten!

    • 2Malevolent

      I say you just go to those sites dude. I start off by going to Rage Select, then OneofUs, followed by Lounge Geeks, then The Beerists. Truth be told, with all this content, I have not been able to get to spill.com for a while. All these sites are doing big/very interesting things.

      • Andrew Catron

        I do go to all those sites (except Rage Select, I live out in the country and can’t stream 30 minutes of youtube too well), I guess I’m just a tad lazy.

        I suppose I’m just impatient to see OOU turn into a mega-site. 🙂

        • 2Malevolent

          oh cool. Yeah I want the same for this site, as well as the others. Sucks dude, you are missing out with RS. I turned ten people onto them based on the GTA lets play.

          • Andrew Catron

            I know! I can’t wait to move outta here next year, hook up the internet to my 50 inch HDTV, and turn Jason and Jeff into my Saturday morning cartoons!

  • losknor

    Im glad that there is another outlet to listen to after Spill. All these guys need to do is hire COHOST!

    • Chris Cox

      Believe me, I’d love to. Send him a message and tell him how much you’d love to see him on this site!

  • Kevin Bauza

    @EricKirby The Two Escobars and Into The Wind were incredible as well. Also, Catching Hell, which was the story of the infamous Steve Bartman play is a great one. Also The Announcement. The story of Magic Johnson when he first told the world he had aids was great. 30 for 30 is really an underrated show.

  • MetalFace

    Completely off topic to the discussion at hand but I had no clue Martin had kids and I’ve been waiting so long for it to be Martin’s turn for music since he recommended Super Model Sandwich with Cheese. And now after this one I literally can’t stop listening to Steely Dan who I never listened to before this podcast. Please Martin give me more of your great musical taste.

  • 2Malevolent

    Question about the amazon thing. This may have already been discussed. I buy a shit ton of things on amazon, but since I am in Canada, I shop on amazon.ca. I did not know if you guys have the same deal with amazon.ca (doubt it), so what I do is go to amazon through one of the DN titles, go to the hompage, and once there, click on the link that takes you to amazon.ca. Any idea if that does anything for you guys?

  • zebop

    The first “WHAAAAAA?” moment came when Martin talked about his kids. Like in plural. More than one.

    You go, Martin! Does this mean there’s a Mrs. Martin somewhere? I’m still getting over the fact that you’ve had sex!

    My major takeaway from this discussion about Life After Spill, is One of Us should be sufficiently respectful of what Spill was, but it’s not going to be Spill: Part II: Electric Boogaloo and it shouldn’t be. Better to be a good original than a bad copy. Do your own thing, don’t feel like you have to recycle Spill stuff on your site and be your own men.

    Don’t get me wrong. I enjoy hearing folks who were on Spill showing up on One of Us (where’s Kayla?), but you guys have to blaze your own trail. This site will get a lot of the old Spillios by default. That’s a given. Just do what you wanna do instead of what has already been done.

    • Chris Cox

      We’d love to have Kayla on anytime but she’s pretty tied up between being a teacher and doing video game reviews for Sparkle Fandango on Rage Select with Allison and Kristen.

  • Livio Volpe

    Man, the spill fans are so hardcore, I’m amazed how well Martin was able to keep his real life business away from his Leon character and the fans attention. I remember him dropping a couple of really sutile hints of him having kids on one of the shows, tho.
    Guys, my dayjob involves crazy hours and using my hearing at all time(music production), but nothing will keep me from following you guys. Hope you can keep this baby going, and it gets bigger and bigger. And, it was cool to hear Brian on this one. As much as i love LEOG, i wished Brian was on more episodes.

    I’ll be donating to the site real soon, as soon as i get out the end-of-the-year madness. I’m kinda broke right now, but i hope it helps 🙂
    Cheers!

  • Livio Volpe

    ps: Could this be the beginning of a new Leog, in spirit? C’mon Chris, YOU KNOW everybody wants it!!
    Just dust off the Sound Board and let’s go!!! 😀

    • Chris Cox

      Even if we did return to LEOG-ish ways, the sound board remains dusty. Forever.

  • Mike Prentice

    Brian – you are SO right on about Dear Zachary. Oh my god, I cannot get within a foot of that movie without starting to tremble. I saw it on IFC when visiting family during the holidays a few years back. I was alone in another room of the house while my folks watched football or something in another.

    Like you, I thought I knew the horrible nature of the crime the film documents, but when the complete horror is revealed… I cried out. I made such a noise of abject horror and despair, my mom came running into the room. I was 34 at the time and I needed to grab hold of her like I was a child who just watched Santa Claus drawn and quartered by Hell’s Angels. I couldn’t even finish the film, I was so destroyed.

    Unlike you, I did not have anything to watch after to dull the pain; I went to sleep with that reveal ruminating in my brain. I can’t recommend the film either; there’s enough in this world to make one scream in anguish, it won’t do anything for you to see this flick (even though it’s very well made.)

    The only benefit I can think of is that it toughened me up for A Serbian Film a year later. That, and A Serbian Film is fictional… I hope…

  • Rædwald

    Why is it that I can only get to Episode VIII on the 7th November if I go to Shows -> The Original Gentlemen? The only way I got to this episode was by following someone else’s link.

    ???

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